1 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:02,070 station this is danielle from the royal 2 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:11,350 i hear loud and clear 3 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:13,190 excellent 4 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:15,280 hi samantha it's great to be talking to 5 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:16,880 you from the royal institution christmas 6 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:23,349 hello hello everybody great talking to 7 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:24,960 you 8 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:25,760 now 9 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:27,680 one of the most fascinating things about 10 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:29,519 this for me is i'm actually talking to 11 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:32,000 you on my mobile phone 12 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:33,600 but i'm guessing that your mobile phone 13 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:36,079 doesn't work up there so how do you 14 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:43,190 it's funny that you mentioned that 15 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:45,120 because i've been up here for about 16 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:46,960 three weeks and i have never thought 17 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:49,600 about my mobile phone once while when 18 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:51,680 i'm on earth i'm constantly checking my 19 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:54,000 mobile phone so i guess i am getting 20 00:00:57,910 --> 00:00:56,079 over my mobile phone addiction 21 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:57,920 but we are not disconnected from our 22 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:00,079 family and friends up here we have uh 23 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:02,399 access to the internet it's uh 24 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:05,680 somewhat slow but we do have it and then 25 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:07,840 we have the possibility of giving them a 26 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:10,640 call over an ip a voiceover ip phone 27 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:12,880 and once a week typically on the weekend 28 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,119 we can even see them we have a two-way 29 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:17,280 video conference where we can see them 30 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:22,630 that's amazing and is it a weird feeling 31 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,200 for you to be to be very distant to be 32 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:27,680 literally the most distant woman 33 00:01:36,149 --> 00:01:29,200 from earth at the moment but actually 34 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,710 i i guess you know i've come to expect 35 00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:40,479 it to be this way because 36 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:42,960 the the iss the space station has been 37 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:46,320 very well connected for for years now 38 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:49,439 so sometimes i find it 39 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,920 even paradoxical when people 40 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,759 think about my job as being an astronaut 41 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,200 on the space station as being very 42 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,280 isolated and it's true that physically 43 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,840 of course i am very far away but 44 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:01,759 compared to many other jobs i actually 45 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,439 have really good possibilities of 46 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:05,600 connections uh you know i'm thinking 47 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:06,880 about people who i don't know are 48 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,119 deployed on submarines or 49 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,520 doing winter overs in antarctica i think 50 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:13,760 we on the space station are way more 51 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:16,319 connected uh with earth and with our 52 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:17,840 fellow human beings and friends and 53 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:21,280 family than those folks are 54 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:23,440 yes i think you're right 55 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:26,800 um so in in these lectures 56 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:29,040 we are talking about communication and 57 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:32,000 and the limitations of communication 58 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:32,800 and 59 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,040 it's really wonderful that we can hear 60 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,519 and see you from space 61 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:39,840 but that's just using two of our senses 62 00:02:44,390 --> 00:02:41,920 and so what we're trying to explore in 63 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:44,400 the lectures is can we go to the next 64 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,480 level and use our other senses to 65 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:48,000 communicate so 66 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:49,760 would it wouldn't it be great to be able 67 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:52,239 to reach out and touch somebody who 68 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:53,440 wasn't there 69 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:56,319 um and share share an experience of all 70 00:03:01,270 --> 00:02:58,400 of the rest of their senses 71 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:01,280 uh for you in in space what is the next 72 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:02,239 big 73 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:04,000 goal or challenge in terms of 74 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:06,080 communication 75 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:11,680 well i can think of simple things like 76 00:03:16,149 --> 00:03:13,920 for example right now we we don't have 77 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,159 continuous coverage on board in terms of 78 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,120 satellites sometimes our antennas are 79 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:21,760 just not be able are not able uh to pick 80 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:23,280 up a satellite for a few minutes 81 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:26,959 sometimes even 10 15 minutes and so we 82 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,440 for that period of time we say we are in 83 00:03:32,949 --> 00:03:31,519 lots of signals so we lose communication 84 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:32,959 so one next step could be to have 85 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:35,840 continuous coverage um another next step 86 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:38,400 could be to to make it easier on board 87 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:40,720 for example having uh wireless headsets 88 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,599 uh well now most of the time we use 89 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:45,360 headsets that are or microphones that 90 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:48,799 are connected via a long cable 91 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:50,080 but then of course what you say is 92 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:52,159 interesting to be able to see uh the 93 00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:54,560 world through somebody else's eyes or 94 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,959 or even being able to touch them 95 00:04:00,630 --> 00:03:58,560 i think there is an interesting 96 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:00,640 technology demonstration which 97 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:01,599 is 98 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:05,680 fly with a fellow european astronaut of 99 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:07,920 mine under morgansen next year so i'm 100 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:09,680 not 101 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:12,400 seeing 102 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,080 anything misleading but i think the 103 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:15,920 point is is really that to try and 104 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:18,959 demonstrate a technology um sort of an 105 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,720 augmented reality technology where 106 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:22,479 people on the ground can see what the 107 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:25,440 astronaut sees and um and the astronaut 108 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:27,040 can have um 109 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:30,160 overlays um that augment reality with 110 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:31,680 with information that can be sent from 111 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,670 well that all sounds absolutely 112 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:37,919 fantastic and very very fascinating and 113 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,240 i'm i'm sure it would inspire 114 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,400 the next generation of scientists and 115 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:45,280 engineers um to get into that work which 116 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:46,880 is what we want to do in in the 117 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:48,400 christmas lectures 118 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:49,759 uh so 119 00:04:53,110 --> 00:04:51,280 from your point of view what should the 120 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:53,120 next generation of engineers and 121 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,680 scientists be working on to help achieve 122 00:05:03,670 --> 00:04:57,680 those communication goals that you need 123 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:06,070 well i think the next generation of 124 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,680 engineers and scientists should be 125 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,039 working on stuff that i cannot even 126 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:11,280 imagine right now because uh that's 127 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,560 really the cool thing about being the 128 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:14,400 next generation you know i i think you 129 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:17,280 should uh um 130 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,759 you know if try find your own path and 131 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:20,880 especially at the beginning of your 132 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:22,400 career when you're not 133 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:23,360 into the 134 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,280 um that professional environment for for 135 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,880 that long you can really think out of 136 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:29,120 the box and come up with new solutions 137 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:32,000 so um i don't wanna um 138 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:33,759 you know shed any light on any 139 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,680 preconceived path but on the contrary i 140 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:37,120 would encourage people to really think 141 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:38,560 out of the box and maybe come up with 142 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:41,759 some revolutionary ideas 143 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:43,039 that's brilliant i'm sure that'll be 144 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:45,039 very very inspiring for them as well 145 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:47,280 thank you so um 146 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:49,280 you've only been in space for for a few 147 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:51,280 weeks now what have you found most 148 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:01,350 i guess i'm surprised but how much i 149 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:04,479 have enjoyed it i am enjoying it 150 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:05,840 i thought you know it would be something 151 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:07,840 that uh would be fun for a few days and 152 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,440 then i would just get used to it and get 153 00:06:13,909 --> 00:06:12,000 over it but um you know it's just i keep 154 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:13,919 enjoying it so much this this feeling of 155 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:16,639 floating it's something so new and and 156 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:19,600 different from what we're used to um and 157 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,560 you know 158 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:22,400 sometimes i find myself thinking that it 159 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:23,759 had never been different that i've been 160 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:25,039 floating all my life but of course 161 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:26,479 that's not the case 162 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:27,520 and 163 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,759 i find myself exploring new ways of 164 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:32,880 you know 165 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:35,280 controlling my body and and my attitude 166 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:36,720 and my orientation and flying through 167 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:38,720 the station so it's been a lot of fun 168 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,560 i'm not very good at it yet so that 169 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:42,479 that's fun too that i'm 170 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:47,270 that's good so can you do some practice 171 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,520 now because i'm sure all of the audience 172 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:51,520 would like to know have you perfected 173 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:59,270 well to be honest i've done only one 174 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:01,039 somersault the other day and that was by 175 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,000 mistake i didn't intend to so 176 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:06,560 i will uh i will hold off from that um 177 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:08,000 it was wonderful it was really great i 178 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:09,520 mean everybody was impressed except that 179 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:11,840 i didn't intend to do it but 180 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:14,560 so i will hold up from that um for now 181 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:15,680 and 182 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:18,639 it'll be for a later call 183 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:20,319 so yeah you can keep perfecting it and 184 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,479 then we'll we'll um keep tracking you on 185 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:24,240 twitter and you can tell us when you 186 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,230 yes definitely i will 187 00:07:35,909 --> 00:07:34,240 okay now obviously these are the 188 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,919 christmas lectures so we're very close 189 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:37,280 to christmas so 190 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:39,120 how do you celebrate christmas on the on 191 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:40,720 the international space station it must 192 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,230 well of course it's definitely a day in 193 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:50,479 which we have time set aside to um to 194 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:52,240 talk to our family and friends um as 195 00:07:55,749 --> 00:07:53,680 i've mentioned before we have this 196 00:07:57,909 --> 00:07:55,759 opportunities of um video conferences 197 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:57,919 and on special holidays like christmas 198 00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:59,759 uh of course uh there's time set aside 199 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:01,599 for that and then of course we'll spend 200 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:02,800 a time together we have a little 201 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:05,440 christmas tree here which is uh planted 202 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:07,520 so to speak upside down in the in our 203 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:08,720 main lab 204 00:08:15,749 --> 00:08:11,120 and um our commander butch wilmer has 205 00:08:19,990 --> 00:08:17,270 some um 206 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:20,000 i guess i'm missing the words but uh um 207 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,520 you know things for us to gather gifts 208 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:23,759 for each other so that on on christmas 209 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:26,240 day hopefully um all of us will have 210 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:28,240 gifts from our crewmates and it can be 211 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:29,680 something simple like somebody's 212 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:31,840 favorite drink that you come across and 213 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:34,399 and you put it aside for them so that uh 214 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,080 it's gonna be a fun 215 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:38,159 experience on christmas day to to see 216 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:39,680 what your crewmates have set aside for 217 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:41,760 you 218 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:43,599 oh that's fantastic and it'd be 219 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:45,040 interesting to see what sort of gifts 220 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:46,800 that you give each other if they're sort 221 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,320 of the normal gifts that you would give 222 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:50,880 each other on on earth or 223 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:52,160 they have a sort of a 224 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:53,279 space 225 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:00,949 well you know some of us might have 226 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:03,839 thought um ahead um i have for example 227 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,480 and uh and sent up some little things to 228 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:08,959 as christmas gifts for for uh for the 229 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:11,680 crewmates but as i said it might just be 230 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:14,320 that uh you know of the supplies that 231 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:16,399 are on board you know that one of your 232 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:18,640 crewmates really enjoys for example a 233 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:20,240 special dessert 234 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:21,839 that you normally would only come across 235 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:23,920 maybe once a month and then you you set 236 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:25,839 that aside when you find it and then 237 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:27,600 that person is gonna be able to enjoy 238 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:30,880 their favorite dessert for christmas 239 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:32,959 yeah that's really nice 240 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:35,839 so um in the in the lectures that we've 241 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:37,760 already filmed so far we've been looking 242 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:40,399 at some wonderful pieces of technology 243 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:43,519 and one of them is haptic technology 244 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:45,920 and we have seen how it can be used for 245 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:48,240 training vets for example and it was 246 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:50,720 just amazing i i was using this piece of 247 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:53,200 haptic technology and it was fantastic 248 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:55,120 and i'm guessing that haptic plays quite 249 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:56,959 a lot of quite a big role 250 00:10:02,949 --> 00:09:59,120 in the technology for the iss is that 251 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:04,949 uh not quite but definitely something 252 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,440 for the future and uh i'm not directly 253 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:09,440 involved with it but i know that uh 254 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:11,440 there is an experiment that um 255 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:13,200 specifically um 256 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,760 studies the this or aims at developing 257 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:17,279 haptic technology so definitely 258 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:20,240 something for the future 259 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:22,240 that's great and i think that will also 260 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:26,000 inspire the next generation of engineers 261 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:27,680 and scientists as well 262 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:29,440 so it's been absolutely wonderful 263 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,360 talking to you samantha thank you so 264 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:33,600 much for all your time i think you're 265 00:10:38,069 --> 00:10:35,839 you're truly inspiring all of the next 266 00:10:42,949 --> 00:10:38,079 generation of engineers and scientists 267 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:44,710 well thank you so much i really enjoyed 268 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,640 this conversation and 269 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:48,959 well happy christmas 270 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:51,279 and happy christmas to you too samantha 271 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:52,480 thank you 272 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:00,320 station this is houston acr that 273 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:06,550 thank you isaan the royal institution